Joe Tsai Co-founder & Chair of Alibaba | In Good Company | Norges Bank Investment Management

Today we have a special guest visiting—uh, called Joe Tsai—chair and co-founder of one of the world's largest companies, with more than 1 billion consumers, called Alibaba—a giant巨头.

今天我们要特别介绍一位嘉宾——乔·蔡，他是全球最大公司之一的董事长兼联合创始人，拥有超过 10 亿消费者，这家公司就是阿里巴巴——一个巨头。

In e-commerce, digital payments, cloud computing, entertainment, and much more, we own拥有（股份/资产） almost 2% of the company.

在电子商务、数字支付、云计算、娱乐等许多领域，我们持有该公司近 2% 的股份。

And you know what?

你们知道吗？

Joe is also a huge sports fan—and you even own a basketball team: the Brooklyn Nets.

乔也是个狂热的体育迷——而且你甚至拥有一支篮球队：布鲁克林篮网队。

So great to have you here, Joe—and lots to talk about.

很高兴你能来，乔，我们有好多话题要聊。

Thanks for having me, Nikolai.

谢谢你邀请我，尼古拉。

Wonderful!

太棒了！

Now let's start with the beginning—just to get to know you a bit.

那我们从一开始聊起吧——先简单了解一下你。

You were born in Taiwan, but when you were 13, you moved to the US.

你出生在台湾，但 13 岁时搬到了美国。

So how was that transition过渡?

那么，那次转变怎么样？

It was an extraordinary非凡的 transition.

那是一次非同寻常的转变。

I uh came from a very different culture文化.

我来自一个截然不同的文化背景。

I grew up in a very Chinese environment and went to a Chinese school, so I barely几乎不 spoke English when I landed in New Jersey in the United States at age 13.

我是在非常传统的中文环境中长大的，就读于中文学校，所以当我 13 岁抵达美国新泽西州时，几乎不会说英语。

So I went to a boarding school.

所以我上了一所寄宿学校。

I thought the best way for me to integrate融入 and be friends with everyone was to play a lot of sports.

我想融入集体、和大家交朋友最好的方式就是多参加体育运动。

I tried out for a lot of teams.

我尝试加入了很多队伍。

I got cut淘汰 from the baseball team.

我被棒球队淘汰了。

Were you any good?

你打得还不错吗？

I wasn't good skill-wise in baseball, but I was fairly athletic运动的 and had some speed.

我在棒球技巧上不算好，但我身体素质不错，跑得也挺快。

Right—I was fast.

对——你跑得很快。

So I tried out for football—American football—I played American football on the varsity校队的（尤指大学或高中最高水平） team—and also played lacrosse in high school—and then went on to play lacrosse in college.

所以我又去试踢橄榄球（美式足球），进了校队打比赛——高中时也打过长曲棍球——后来上大学继续打长曲棍球。

Okay.

好的。

Who were the formative形成期的 people in your upbringing?

在你成长过程中，哪些人是对你影响最深的人？

My father—he is one of the most brilliant, one of the most sharp-minded people I know—but he's very tough.

我的父亲——他是我认识的最聪明、思维最敏捷的人之一——但他非常严厉。

I feared my father.

我害怕我的父亲。

Do you still fear him?

你现在还怕他吗？

I still—well, he's no longer alive—is he still kind of a bit of a ghost幽灵 in your life?

我还在——好吧，他已经不在了——但他是否仍像幽灵一样萦绕在你的生活中？

still well he's no longer is he still kind of a bit

（片段：仍然很好，他不再……他是否仍然有点像个幽灵？）

of bit of ghost in your life still bit of a ghost

（片段：有点像个幽灵，仍然有点像个幽灵）